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Tobías's avatar

The problem is that no one is addressing the destruction of the Christianity that was at the foundation of western society, who is now trying to rid istelf of it and suffering the consequences.

What happens when man kills God and tries to take His place? Creates his own meaning for what is good?

We have substituted God for man since the enlightenment and we are only paying the logical price.

Things will only continue heading in the direction they’re heading if this doesn’t change.

We need to bring back The Motive for men to be honorable, honest, humble and sacrificial rather than instinctual, selfish, hedonistic and proud.

Anything else that is attempted without addressing the underlying values that determine how the western man thinks will do nothing to alter the course of the empire.

The Appalachian Gorilla's avatar

I think the problem is noone is near the problem who is in charge. A upper class boomer or congressman had thier hard wirk payoff, so they think it does. My boomer father says it atleast once a day "hard work and effort is all i ever needed" This is all they ever needed. They think it is all we need.

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I think you're right about the form work takes in the modern world. There seems like more and more of it, but with less and less security. But I don't think that hard work is such a big pillar of the conservative platform. Like, the stress on personal responsibility is certainly there in the mainline conservative ideology, but I don't hear it as this constant drumbeat.

Also, I think along with you, I have often been shocked at how easy the lives are of the elite class. They mostly get by on pretending. In my opinion, they have a lot more free time than the average Amazon driver or whatever. I'm not talking about a startup CEO, but some kind of floaty mediocre upper class academic / NGO / corporate leader type person. It's despicable. But I trace it all back to psychology. I think those people feel especially secure in being loved. You know they're much more likely to be sociopaths. But anyway:

How are we supposed to make work sacred? I suppose the first step would be to try to make sure that one's work is good for the world. But without more definite guidelines, the command sounds like a disguised way of saying... work harder!

Of course it isn't. But when I was more religious I often felt the same call coming from religion. It felt rather sadistic and cruel in the same way . If you feel no love from God, you need to pray more. If nothing happens, you need to pray more! If praying leaves you feeling disgusted and disturbed, you just need to pray more! No matter what happens, you need to pray more.

I think that this sick cycle is well explained by Freud's idea of the superego, a critical internal agency that represents all the irrational sadism and hostility in the (internal, psychological) law.

So, to some degree, the enemy is also within (even if "they," I.e.: the ruling class, have planted him there, in that our upbringing and cultural environment are molded by unjust relations of domination). It takes two to tango, or to work too hard: one to demand it, and the other to accept the demand as somehow just, necessary, bearable, natural, etc.

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Gene Botkin's avatar

I'm glad you liked it.